Friday, December 11, 2009

How much should a girl cover in front of other girls?

....and is it different if the other girls are muslims or christians?How much should a girl cover in front of other girls?
ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM





';O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not annoyed...'; (Qur'an 33:59





';And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands...'; (Qur'an 24:30-31)





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Female must want to start covering(HIJAB) from menstrual age.


';';Ayesha (R) reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr (R) came to the Messenger of Allah (S) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands.'; (Abu Dawood) ';





The second requirement is looseness. The clothing must be loose enough so as not to describe the shape of the woman's body. One desirable way to hide the shape of the body is to wear a cloak over other clothes. However, if the clothing is loose enough, an outer garment is not necessary.


Thickness is the third requirement. The clothing must be thick enough so as not to show the color of the skin it covers or the shape of the body. The Prophet Muhammad (S) stated that in later generations of his ummah there would be ';women who would be dressed but naked and on top of their heads (what looks like) camel humps. Curse them for they are truly cursed.'; (Muslim)





Another requirement is an over-all dignified appearance. The clothing should not attract men's attention to the woman. It should not be shiny and flashy so that everyone notices the dress and the woman.


In addition there are other requirements:


(1) Women must not dress so as to appear as men. ';Ibn Abbas narrated: 'The Prophet (S) cursed the men who appear like women and the women who appear like men.''; (Bukhari)


(2) Women should not dress in a way similar to the unbelievers.


(3) The clothing should be modest, not excessively fancy and also not excessively ragged to gain others admiration or sympathy.


Often forgotten is the fact that modern Western dress is a new invention. Looking at the clothing of women as recently as seventy years ago, we see clothing similar to hijab. These active and hard-working women of the West were not inhibited by their clothing which consisted of long, full dresses and various types of head covering. Muslim women who wear hijab do not find it impractical or interfering with their activities in all levels and walks of life.


Hijab is not merely a covering dress but more importantly, it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public. Dress is only one facet of the total being





ALLAH HELP YOU


ALLAH HAFIZ


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Assalam-O-Alaikum


Answer of your Question about (Hijab)


Sorry for late answer, I were searching Ayat(bcz I like to answer by Ayat and SHAHI Hadith, I don’t like to give fetwa by my self, bcz I am also student of Islam and also knowing about Islam because Quran have so many things (signs) which we don’t know)


[AL-Quran Surah 24: AL Noor (THE LIGHT), verse 31]


Let see Ayat then we will talk





ALLAH says in next Ayat after the Ayat of Men Hijab





“And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw veil over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers. Their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! Turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.”





[AL-Quran Surah 24: AL Noor (THE LIGHT), verse 31] (Translation Yusuf Ali)





Read the Above Ayat at twice that you understand and let me also help you





“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful”








I hope you note the point, can I clear it now?? I hope you will not mind okey let me clear it


“And TELL the BELIEVING WOMEN that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty ……..…..to THEIR husbands, or THEIR fathers, or THEIR husband’s fathers, or THEIR sons, or THEIR husband’s sons, or their brothers or THEIR brother’s sons, or THEIR sister’s sons, or THEIR (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam)….”





If you look that “THEIR” is used for “BELIEVING WOMEN” . It is used as pronoun.


I hope now u understood that what I Mean to show??





So this verse show that you should protect(cover yourself) from non-believer women(Non-Muslims).


You know the society that what happening now adays, even our some Muslims(Muslims women and Muslim Men) also fell in …(Evil way)…if you have read the story of (A.S) like peoples of that time were also in such way(evil way).


I tried my best to say in clear words, and there is no shame in knowledge, but after that I am male and you are female so I can’t explain it more direct.





I hope you this Answer will Help you


Feel free to email me (if you not understand) but Inshallah your question will clear by above answer.


Its late about 11:15pm and I must want to sleep. Sorry I disturb you or sorry if I wasted your time by so long explaination.


MAY ALLAH HELP US


ALLAH HAFIZHow much should a girl cover in front of other girls?
i have heard that you must wear a hijab in front of a non Muslim girl because you don't know really what is the intention.. i mean because there is a lot of secretly lesbians and BI sexually that's the reason you have to cover up and since its haram in Islam you can wear whatever you want if its a Muslim girl but of course that doesn't mean nudity.
Scholars generally say that in front of other women, a Muslim woman has to cover between the navel/bellybutton and the knee. The rest is fine. Most women wouldn't be comfortable without wearing a top though! It does mean that swimming costumes/bikinis aren't enough - if you're going swimming you can wear some knee-length shorts and a top.





In front of non-Muslim women, including Christians, is where the scholars tend to differ. Some schools of thought (including Maliki and Shaf'i) say that it's just the same as for Muslim women. Others (including Hanafi and Hanbali) say that they shouldn't reveal more than they would out in the streets, because the verse of hijab in surah Nur mentions that Muslim women should cover except in front of the specified male relations, and THEIR women - the latter schools of thought take 'their' to mean 'Muslim'.





Personally I'd go somewhere in the middle - I know that certain women, whether Muslim or non Muslim, are likely to describe your figure, hair etc to non Mahrams, so I wouldn't feel comfortable uncovering in front of them.





For more info read:


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satel…
being a chistian girl myself.. and being conservative to some extent, i think it is best if girls wear approprately. that covers, not revealing too much of your body! not just infront of other girls, tis best if girls cover themselves appropriatelyin front of others, that helps a secure dignity for a girl :D
';It is not permissible for a woman to look at the 'aurat' of another woman.'; (Ahadith of Rasulullah(SAW)


(Aurat of a woman means the entire body of a woman besides her face and hands.)


';And, say unto the believing women to cast down their gaze and guard their modesty, and not to display their beauty.'; (Surah Noor)


For a believing Muslim female, Islam orders a female to ';cover up'; (from strangers-male and female,in public,ect...), should be enough to make her do so!
I dnt think we have to cover much in front of other girls, if its just be and my mom at home i wear shorts and a t-shirt. i'm gonna agree with some of the other ppl, it depends on you personally, like at my friends sleep over, i had to wear long sleeves and stuff cuz she invited her boy friend over, cuz we went out to eat and had a water fight, after her boyfriend went home and i changed into pajamas .....i packed longsleeve pajamas cuz i knew he'd still be there......i put the pajamas on, but after he left, i didn't change into short sleeves again.....i felt more modest with longs sleeves.....there are times though that i go to a friends house to spend the night, and if we're the only ones home i just take off the long sleeves and wear some shorts. it really depends.....i would say there is nothing to worry about though.
from what I know, the awrah of a woman in front of another woman is the navel to the knee. That being said it does not mean that women should walk around topless in front of each other, however because of breastfeeding and because logic dictates that the chest is normally covered by everyday clothing. As far as Muslim or non-Muslim, I am not sure. For me I have had problems with non-Muslims inadvertently saying things (not with malice just because they do not understand it is a big deal) so I am wary about even taking the hijab off in front of them.
The issue here is not really about your aura in front of them.Allah s.w.t in his wisdom made our aura in front of women from our navel to our knees to accomodate breastfeeding.The issue is about trust.





Some girls will go and talk about what theyve seen and describe your hair and body to their male relatives.Of course this isnt something malicious,sometimes brothers and cousins especially non muslim ones get curious and ask questions.





If you are sure that you will not be talked about and laid bare by description then feel free to dress as you like.


Heres a site that answers your question in detail though it does not mention the female awrah strangely.


I find them rather rigid but Allahualem
Women in front of other women should cover the private parts, from the neck down....bikinis are unacceptable in Islam.


I wish we Muslim females could stop coping the non-Muslims style and clothing.


Waseem did you read the question.?..she asked about women to women... not to men or public.Do us a favor and first read the question and think about it before you get excited and carried away...
Something that doesn't reveal too much.. I think it's discusting..


But anything that is comfortable around girls.. and it's more of a personal decission rather than a rule.. =)


Ufcourse there is no difference between muslim and christians!!!
A Muslim girl should cover their hair, and body, except for their face, hands, and feet.


Yes, it is different for Christains. Christains go out dressed however they want.
covering what ? her body or her mouth ?. a woman has to try harder to live a modest life so she will not hurt herself and her family. so you decide if you want to cover or uncover .
A woman doesnt have to cover at all in front of other women, i used to go swimming in bikinis with all muslim women.
It is really just a matter of being modest or not. It shouldn't make any difference whatsoever who or what the other girls religious beliefs.
Very intresting question, i would say prob as much as bikinis. but for muslims prob what they normally wear and christians the same
I don't ever show anything that's covered by my underclothes!
Not sure about Muslims but Christian girls ain't shy!?!
None! A girl should be free! Free to look nice! Free to wear what she wants! (Modestly, within reason:)

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